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Jonathan Snowden's avatar

I found it so interesting to be linked here as the antithesis to this. I was reading the piece and thinking about my own Substack experience and how foreign all this sounded.

As always, very interesting. The breadth of your output remains astonishing!

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Oliver Bateman Does the Work's avatar

I am a total junkie for bespoke content … I’m not joking about it. I was very happy when @Tim Bissell , also linked in here, gave me full access to his sumo newsletter.

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Kristen Kroll's avatar

Love it! One can almost see the point where the AI is fed by other AI writing, like a snake eating its own tail. Similar to what’s already underway in AI generated “art” as well

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Oliver Bateman Does the Work's avatar

It totally is. You can see “writers” clearly cannibalizing each other’s YouTube, Instagram, and even Substack AI content. It’s really wild. A whole economy of nothing that’s self sustaining the way drinking your urine is when you’re marooned in the mountains (meaning it isn’t self sustaining at all, eventually!)

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Kristen Kroll's avatar

So foreign to me, since I've spent decades (basically my whole adult life) learning how to dig into complex bodies of literature in the biological sciences, analyze and synthesize, figure out where the new pieces we've generated in our research fit and add to the whole, and doing very rigorous and peer reviewed desktop publishing of our work.

Once one starts looking in the public spaces, there is so much noise and garbage out there--and AI is making it WAY worse, with even previously reputable media outlets seeming to write stuff that sounds like it was AI generated (and often somewhat off or wrong). One can still find reputable sources of information but it is struggling to gain traction in a sea of trash these days.

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Oliver Bateman Does the Work's avatar

There was an old Tom Tomorrow cartoon to this effect , about what happens when poster-journalists are left to endlessly spin and recontextualize the last remaining fact. Bad/sloppy AI use — because there are some salutary use cases; it was very helpful when I dislocated my wrist, composing from talk to text — will get us there on a much faster timetable

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Kristen Kroll's avatar

Thanks for the cartoon—very relevant

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Lee Doyle's avatar

Yup. And now the Dept of Health and Human Services relies on phony research papers to set "policy." We are in deep doodoo.

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Lee Doyle's avatar

What is even the purpose of this figure??

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Oliver Bateman Does the Work's avatar

Passing peer review by making the fake paper look more like a real one

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H.D. Miller's avatar

Crap. I’m doing it all wrong, trying to write things the old fashioned way. I need to train an AI to turn out provocative think pieces on grits, or pimento cheese, or why chop suey is authentic.

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Oliver Bateman Does the Work's avatar

Using the fake slop to write about the delicious real slop (nothing beats powering through a prepared tub of pimento cheese on a summer day)

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Lee Doyle's avatar

My fave: "Every month he writes a special post about authenticity." Thank you, as always, for speaking truth to bullshit.

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Oliver Bateman Does the Work's avatar

I'm here for it. Or, as the AI writer would assure his audience, "A lot of writers just say it, but I REALLY mean it. I do. So much." :D

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Lee Doyle's avatar

😆

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Erica Zendell's avatar

You weren’t playing with that third footnote. 🙈

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Oliver Bateman Does the Work's avatar

A true alpha…the current VP went on his podcast back in the day, too!

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Erica Zendell's avatar

(Blinks meaningfully)

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Ryan N's avatar

Dude chugged an entire boot of gravy. He almost didn't spill any. That was 10x more impressive than ai writing.

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Oliver Bateman Does the Work's avatar

It’s the most impressive thing you can imagine. I had a hunch you’d appreciate it. I can really down fluids fast but not gravy

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